Comments on: Well informed http://www.redbadge.co.uk/notes/?p=26 for liberty - against authoritarianism Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:32:08 +0000 hourly 1 By: Pete http://www.redbadge.co.uk/notes/?p=26#comment-194 Pete Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:59:32 +0000 http://www.redbadge.co.uk/notes/?p=26#comment-194 You're spoiling the purity of my argument by introducing nasty hypotheticals (like 'possibly drunken male') :-). However, as the law stands it's the responsibility of the owners of the premises, so remonstrate with them. If you don't have any success with that, well just go elsewhere - the ultimate capitalist answer. And in the end a more effective one than demonising, then criminalising, the essentially law-abiding. But <strong>why</strong> do you want to 'slip out and make a phone call of complaint'? Why do you think you're <em>entitled</em> so to do? It seems to me that the language you use to describe the act indicates that underneath you really feel that doing that would be sneaky, underhand and at least a little reprehensible. I don't understand your last comment. It <em>is</em> nanny statism. That's a bad thing, isn't it? In any case, note what it says on the poster: it tells you to <strong>phone the informer line</strong>, <em>not</em> to complain to the management of the building (though that would be the obvious thing to do) BTW I wouldn't use the number on the image! You’re spoiling the purity of my argument by introducing nasty hypotheticals (like ‘possibly drunken male’) :-). However, as the law stands it’s the responsibility of the owners of the premises, so remonstrate with them. If you don’t have any success with that, well just go elsewhere – the ultimate capitalist answer. And in the end a more effective one than demonising, then criminalising, the essentially law-abiding.

But why do you want to ‘slip out and make a phone call of complaint’? Why do you think you’re entitled so to do? It seems to me that the language you use to describe the act indicates that underneath you really feel that doing that would be sneaky, underhand and at least a little reprehensible.

I don’t understand your last comment. It is nanny statism. That’s a bad thing, isn’t it?

In any case, note what it says on the poster: it tells you to phone the informer line, not to complain to the management of the building (though that would be the obvious thing to do)

BTW I wouldn’t use the number on the image!

]]> By: Bondwoman http://www.redbadge.co.uk/notes/?p=26#comment-191 Bondwoman Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:22:21 +0000 http://www.redbadge.co.uk/notes/?p=26#comment-191 Sorry, mate, I am glad to have that number. As a woman, I absolutely am not interested in confronting a possibly drunken male smoking in a pub. I will wait and see what happens. However, if someone is smoking in a pub, and the publican or manager is doing nothing about it, then I also think I am entitled to slip out and make a phone call of complaint. It's nanny statism, IMHO Sorry, mate, I am glad to have that number. As a woman, I absolutely am not interested in confronting a possibly drunken male smoking in a pub. I will wait and see what happens. However, if someone is smoking in a pub, and the publican or manager is doing nothing about it, then I also think I am entitled to slip out and make a phone call of complaint. It’s nanny statism, IMHO

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